. >> you can can say that clinton is lucky and he caught the tech boom, or clinton was lucky coming out of the recession, but one thing that you can cannot explain isway is the difference of the poverty reduction members. >> we appreciate the chairman coming to the meeting, and we did not get a lot accomplished -- >> we need to talk about getting to the root causes of poverty. >> well, he has a lot to learn. >> the goal here is not to go after mr. putin personally, but the goal is to change the calculus. >> and right now, we are looking at live images from the rose garden where we are awaiting a news conference by president obama and german chancellor angela merkel , and joining me live is the correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports" and msnbc political editor mark murray, and thank you for join g ing us. >> good morning. >> andrea, i want to start with you as we wait for the president and the german leader to emerge, the situation in eastern ukraine is deteriorating and two ukrainian held koicopters shot this morning, and several reports of journal itselves released, and the